posted by
nekare at 08:52pm on 04/03/2007
Had the most draining discussion with my brother today, about gay rights and religion and heaven and whatnot. Okay, yeah, he's entitled to having an opinion, but it's not his opinion, it's the wreteched school's opinion, and it drives me nuts to see how he's just UNCAPABLE of making a mind of his own. We've been in the same schools, and he's swallowing all of my high school's religious crap - a very much Catholic, very much rich-kids school, and adding the fact that he's sixteen and confused about whatever the hell sixteen year old boys are confused about, he's all about 'gays are digusting and enemies of God!' and 'but Catholicism is the right religion! No one else is getting into heaven!' and the three of us (being mom, dad and I) were trying SO hard to get him to see the entire picture and he just. Won't. Get it. UGH. He's always been a bit of a homophobe, so it's not surprising, but it's reaching new heights as of lately, and I'm just hoping so hard that he'll meet somone one of these days that'll make him see the matter in another way (I'd actually WHOOP in joy if one of his friends turned out to be gay just so he'll realize that, you know, gays are PEOPLE. *sigh*) And of course, there's that hypocresy thing with teenager boys in which they kinda gag at the mention of a gay man but DROOL at the thought of lesbians. *eyeroll* At which he said in a very tiny voice 'that's different...' and then my dad said 'so, do you believe in that whole masturbation is wrong too as well? because that's just stupid, considering how natural it is,' and omg ILU dad. Anyway, it was just quite frustrating, and I do hope he gets a broader life outlook once he gets older, because yeah, I wasn't all about teh boy love when I was that age, (a year more, though, and I became a total slash fiend) but I certainly wasn't as narrow-minded.
Then we discussed (only adults, this time, which was omg so much better) the influence of Catholicism in Mexican society in the extended family reunion, and that was actually pretty cool. I'm kinda all for secular education, because yeah, I had the precence of mind to not buy everything I was told, but so many kids don't, and end up growing up thinking whatever they're told at school is law. Unlike the US, a BIG percentage of people goes to private schools in here, most of which are Catholic, and the higher the social class, the strictest part or Church. Like, say, all those pretty schools in my city with TIGHT friendships with the Opus Dei. Beneath them are the Maristas (my high school was Marista, btw), and then the Jesuitas, and so on. Oddly enough, all of my Marista teachers were actually quite laid-back, while the regular teachers were the paranoid kind that had us stand up and pray before EVERY. SINGLE. CLASS. You know, the kind that intoxicate young minds with the 'you do that you go to hell' speech. My grandma, a devout Catholic, had me terrified of pretty much everything when I was little, until I grew up and realized how messed up the Catholic church is right now. It's been disappointing me steadily for years now, and while I do have faith, and I do believe in God and the Virgin Mary and all, I don't believe in the Institution any longer. Er, that sure got long... And what was the catalyst for all of this? The bright-colored-haired guy from RBD (the worst band EVER) coming out of the closet and the entire of Mexico's prissy's society going ballistic and prude-ish about it. I might hate his music, but man, that boy has my respect. The guts it must have taken...
Anyway, I was thinking, and by the time DW starts again I'll be downloading Supernatural, Heroes, Doctor Who, The Black Donnellys and Veronica Mars (if I'm all caught up with it already by then)) weekly. o_O My computer's gonna get fried, or something.
Then we discussed (only adults, this time, which was omg so much better) the influence of Catholicism in Mexican society in the extended family reunion, and that was actually pretty cool. I'm kinda all for secular education, because yeah, I had the precence of mind to not buy everything I was told, but so many kids don't, and end up growing up thinking whatever they're told at school is law. Unlike the US, a BIG percentage of people goes to private schools in here, most of which are Catholic, and the higher the social class, the strictest part or Church. Like, say, all those pretty schools in my city with TIGHT friendships with the Opus Dei. Beneath them are the Maristas (my high school was Marista, btw), and then the Jesuitas, and so on. Oddly enough, all of my Marista teachers were actually quite laid-back, while the regular teachers were the paranoid kind that had us stand up and pray before EVERY. SINGLE. CLASS. You know, the kind that intoxicate young minds with the 'you do that you go to hell' speech. My grandma, a devout Catholic, had me terrified of pretty much everything when I was little, until I grew up and realized how messed up the Catholic church is right now. It's been disappointing me steadily for years now, and while I do have faith, and I do believe in God and the Virgin Mary and all, I don't believe in the Institution any longer. Er, that sure got long... And what was the catalyst for all of this? The bright-colored-haired guy from RBD (the worst band EVER) coming out of the closet and the entire of Mexico's prissy's society going ballistic and prude-ish about it. I might hate his music, but man, that boy has my respect. The guts it must have taken...
Anyway, I was thinking, and by the time DW starts again I'll be downloading Supernatural, Heroes, Doctor Who, The Black Donnellys and Veronica Mars (if I'm all caught up with it already by then)) weekly. o_O My computer's gonna get fried, or something.
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Was it just a phase for your sister?
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Yeah it was a just a phase for her. It was during that whole 'The whole world is against me, woe is me' teenage phase. I think the 'woe is me' phase lasted longer. She one of the most open minded people I know now; we had a big long political discussion about a week ago and I was all proud of her for being involved and forming her own opinions.
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Enfin nunca estuve -ni estare- en escuela privada de ese tipo, pero varios amigos mios han estado. De hecho el más "enfermo" estuvo en la más estricta (de las qe son cercanas al Opus Dei) así qe yo creo qe eventualmente tu hermano se formara su propia opinion del asunto.
No sé donde vayas pero en tnt ya empezaron con la 3era de VM, sólo me gustaría saber qe día.
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ODM!!! ¿Cuándo empieza Doctor Who? :O
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Early in the history of the Christian Church, they had to decide if Christianity was a sect of Judaism or a serarate religion. By choosing to not to require circumcision of new converts and dropping the kosher rules, they chose the latter. So, sodomy isn't kosher, and is forbidden to observant Jews, but Christians don't follow the kosher rules, thus there's no reason they can't engage in sodomy.
(Well, St. Paul was anti-gay, and I think it comes through in his letters in the New Testament, but he was an observant Jew and a product of his culture.)
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So yeah, coming out in certain societies? Extremely brave.