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posted by [personal profile] nekare at 03:36am on 10/04/2007
Am updating from my laptop.

OMG IT'S OKAY AGAIN, THERE'S INTERNET AGAIN, I CAN FINALLY STOP USING MY OLD LAPTOP THAT DIES WITH EVERY PAGE IT OPENS.

*DANCES AROUND MADLY*
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posted by [identity profile] terraneanblues.livejournal.com at 08:39pm on 10/04/2007
LOL

*squees with you* :-D
 
posted by [identity profile] terraneanblues.livejournal.com at 08:54pm on 10/04/2007
By the way... por mi clase de espanol, como se dice "Parking Prohibited" y "Swimming Prohibited"? Tengo "Se prohibe..." but I don't have the verb... they gave us this activity without giving us the proper vocabulary. Grargh.

(also, i still can't tell the difference between 'por' and 'para'...)
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 10:56pm on 10/04/2007
hehe, parking would be 'Prohibido estacionar' (people in Monterrey say 'parkear', which is the trashiest thing ever. *eyeroll* they're so close to the border that they're losing their identities) and swimming would be 'prohibido nadar'. ('se prohibe' is correct, but in signs and stuff on the street (I'm guessing that's what it's for?) 'prohibe' is usually more used.)

Mmm, how do I explain it...

'para' indicates both a function ('es para beber' it's for drinking) and an origin ('es para tí' it's for you).

'Por' can also indicate an origin, athough it's more specific ('este libro fue escrito por jk rowling' this book was written by jk rowling). It's main function, though, it's to explain something, it's something like an abreviated version of 'porque' (because) like in: 'me fue mal por no haber estudiado' (I didn't do well because I hadn't studied).

note: it's not used in every single case, and it depends of the sentence like:
'me caí por el agua en el suelo' (I fell because of the water on the floor) is very different than
'me caí porque había agua en suelo' (I fell because there was water on the floor)
Er, that, you'll learn later, I'm sure. It's the sort of thing that comes easily once your nearly fluent in a language, when you know certain things go in a way because it sounds right. *shrug*

Um, hopefully that made sense. o_O Hehe, have you sung the prepostion song already? XD And don't you guys have something like it in English? (there's a pretty funny song for te form in Japanese...)
 
posted by [identity profile] terraneanblues.livejournal.com at 12:11am on 11/04/2007
*HAPPY FLAIL* Ahhh, Alé, leave it to you to explain it PERFECTLY! When we learned por/para last quarter, it was in a single lesson, rushed into the curriculum just before exams, and we were basically given a list of the different instances and told to memorize them. Before that, I hadn't even known there was a difference between them, so I was all "0.o'" just looking at the list. But okay. Para=function and inspecific origin. Por=to explain.

We haven't yet learned future or past tenses... well, we learned the 'easy' future--'Voy comprar estos'--but that's it so far. Right now we're learning impersonal reflexives; thus, the 'se prohibe' (and yes, it's for signs. I have little pictures for them and everything :-D).

Preposition song?! Qué genta mas loca... No, we don't have anything like it, not that I know of, anyway... then again... I kind of 'missed' any and all grammar training in English because, erm, I already knew it all. They would test me on stuff and I'd get 100% without learning it. But only in English. Go figure!

My current Spanish teacher is kind of a bitch, so I have a feeling that she won't bother teaching us anything fun like that.
 
posted by [identity profile] sunshineclouds.livejournal.com at 11:14pm on 10/04/2007
Jejeje, ¡¡¡feliciades!!! :D
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 05:37am on 11/04/2007
jaja, grax. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 05:19am on 11/04/2007
In the name of information... a) what was the problem, and b) how did you solve it?

No, it's professional courtesy, really!
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 05:37am on 11/04/2007
Noooo idea. XD

Nah, I think it had something to do with the laptop suddenly, ugh, what's the word in English... (omg my dictionary doesn't know it either!) whatever, not accepting the wireless modem. *shrug* Dunno, you know I know pants about computers. *g*

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