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posted by [personal profile] nekare at 10:52pm on 05/08/2006
I just laughed myself sick at that twist at the end of episode 17 of Ouran. OMG I LOVE TAMAKI.

Surprising, considering how generally dull the episode was.

*goes off to watch more Ergo Proxy*
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posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 07:43am on 07/08/2006
Ergo Proxy:Is there any chance of Vincent developing a spine? I mean, why doesn't he open his eyes? (State: 1x03);
Which reminds me: Cogito ergo proxy, I think therefore next? Maybe it's an ellipsis; Cogito ergo proximus sum, I think therefore I am the next one.
Beside, proxy is afaik not a Latin word, but rather a word derived from Latin.
*shrugs*
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 07:54pm on 07/08/2006
Oh, Vincent. He's so damn complex, that part in ep 3, with him sayhing "I killed my own personality," makes me ache for him. There's been so much character development, too, especially in eps 8 and 9 (which are just sooo good).

That's actually rather interesting, and it kinda matches with some information from ep 6, about what the Proxy actually was (fear not, I won't spoil you).

I'm so glad you're watching this as well, it's great to have someone to talk about it with. :)

I read 'Cry Wold' yesterday and eeeeh, Remy!! Rogue!! So great.
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 08:10pm on 07/08/2006
Yeppyepp. I like Remy. I also like Rogue.
But you've got to wait; Ergo Proxy fansubs suck bandwidth as if there's no tomorrow.

Episode 6? Is exactly what I'll be watching in 5 minutes.
How many are already out? And am I the only one who is going to ship Vincent/Real (Or Lil. Or Liru. Or WHATEVER. I like the Japanese language, but the problem with l/r sucks.)? 'cause, give the poor boy a little bit of independence and courage, and they would be so cute together. By the way, does it only seem this way or is he a competent fighter? I mean, he fought off/escaped from several armed autoslaves, (autoraves. autoreifs. Points to Real.) and is a pretty decent shot with that weird-ass gun of his.

Oh, as for Vincent/Red!Bakemono - I have my theories. None of them spell are all that nice for poor Vince.

Oh, and Puni rocks. Too bad she's too dumb. If there ever was a character which needed a forcefeed injection of Cogito, it's her. And what's with Real's autoslave? He seems pretty autonomous; too autonomous, if you get what I mean.
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 12:29am on 08/08/2006
Apparently, it's 23 episodes long, and episode 22 has just come out - but the subs are kinda stuck at episode 14, lord knows why. *sigh* what will I do without my daily fix?

Of course not! I kinda shipped them since the first episode, and ooooh, ep 6 is so good for them as a ship (you'll see what I mean). I think I'll stick with Real, you'll see why. And oh Vincent is one hell of a fighter, I forgot to tell you earlier, watch the first episode again, it makes much more sense after you're a bit ahead, and Vincent has a killer (pun intended) fight scene.

Mmm, theories. Yum. I kinda spoiled myself while looking for some info earlier, but it's not really that hard to guess - you're probably right. And yep, poor Vincent will, indeed, need a hug.

About Pino, again, go back a bit, too, uh, ep 2, I think. She kneels. Oooh, I hadn't thought about Iggy in that light, it's quite possible, considering how open and friendly he/it/whatever is. *ponders*
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 06:13am on 08/08/2006
Na, that kneeling? Automated Prayer Reflex. Is mentionend in Episode 1 - "we have autoraves to pray for us".

Which reminds me: A proxy is also someone who acts for another - maybe the proxies are some kind of marionettes? Directed by the subconcious desires of those in 'control'? Would explain red!bakemono's actions towards Real. (And yes, I've seen her ID.)
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 06:24pm on 08/08/2006
But she is infected, Vincent says so, that she's become self-aware. Also, in episode, uh, two, I think, when Vincent goes back to his job and finds Dorothy killed (or as killed as an auto-rave can be), all of the screens have Pino's photo and 'infected' beside her.

Mmm, maybe. Um, can't say much about this of I'll spoil you real good. XD
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 05:27pm on 11/08/2006
Yes, you're right. However, not in the beginning; that's why he tells the owner he can't get rid of her.

Maybe the exposure to PROXY is the reason for her getting Cogito? Or maybe her loss of her reason to be, which would be her owner?
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 06:35pm on 12/08/2006
I reckon it's her loss, it's somewhat of a turning point for her, isn't it? Just before going to the mall, her owner still had to ask her to turn the ALP on.

How far along are you right now?
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 12:52am on 13/08/2006
Maybe; I guess we'll never exactly know when she cogito'd.

Episode 11 I am, with the crazy bookstore, which lets me have some very insane ideas, and which lets me know that Jean-Jacques Rousseau is a hack. Why? Because he totally ignores the existence of symbolic and/or visual thinking. We may need language to communicate; but we don't need it to think. What we need to think is a) an apparatus to think (the brain) and b) some kind of input; the latter can be anything, from memory, to former thoughts, to sentences, to the touch of a fabric. If his philosophy can indeed be summarized by the episode, it has got holes in it to fly the Galactica through.
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 05:54pm on 13/08/2006
Man, I love that episode - it's so a complete maze and it's so thick and ugh, poor, poor Vincent. I wanted to hug him so much.

You remind me so much of the book I'm reading right now, Snow Crash, in which a hacker keeps on explaining language in that same way (to paraphrase: we all have the same hardware installed from birth, but it's the software - the experience to for example, develop a certain language. Oh, and he keeps on making metaphors with binary code). It's cool and interesting as hell, you should try it out.
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 06:05pm on 13/08/2006
Hm. Sounds interesting; and somewhere I read that title. And aren't metaphors with binary code the best? Where else do you have such a distinct way diffenting between True and False? And it's a rather nice trick to subtract by adding. Heh.

BTW, 1x13. Real can be a spoiled brat, can't she?
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 02:00am on 14/08/2006
It's awesome, you should really try it - not only does it features hackers explaining philosophy and dead tongues, but there's also this amazingly rich background - the government has fall and the different criminal groups rule the city (the mafia takes care of old ladies, too! And owns every single pizza delivery store.) All this talk about binary code it's kinda making me wish I knew more about computers, actually. It should be great.

Indeed. I wanted to hit her for most of that episode XD (but aww, she's growing up. Too bad she needed her Entourage to go psycho to mature, but oh well.)
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 09:04am on 14/08/2006
Will pick up next month. (Next month equals money.)

Yeah, but she's still my favourite spoiled brat.
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 07:47am on 07/08/2006
Aw, strike that; I should watch the entire episode before posting.

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