posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 06:24pm on 08/08/2006
But she is infected, Vincent says so, that she's become self-aware. Also, in episode, uh, two, I think, when Vincent goes back to his job and finds Dorothy killed (or as killed as an auto-rave can be), all of the screens have Pino's photo and 'infected' beside her.

Mmm, maybe. Um, can't say much about this of I'll spoil you real good. XD
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 05:27pm on 11/08/2006
Yes, you're right. However, not in the beginning; that's why he tells the owner he can't get rid of her.

Maybe the exposure to PROXY is the reason for her getting Cogito? Or maybe her loss of her reason to be, which would be her owner?
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 06:35pm on 12/08/2006
I reckon it's her loss, it's somewhat of a turning point for her, isn't it? Just before going to the mall, her owner still had to ask her to turn the ALP on.

How far along are you right now?
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 12:52am on 13/08/2006
Maybe; I guess we'll never exactly know when she cogito'd.

Episode 11 I am, with the crazy bookstore, which lets me have some very insane ideas, and which lets me know that Jean-Jacques Rousseau is a hack. Why? Because he totally ignores the existence of symbolic and/or visual thinking. We may need language to communicate; but we don't need it to think. What we need to think is a) an apparatus to think (the brain) and b) some kind of input; the latter can be anything, from memory, to former thoughts, to sentences, to the touch of a fabric. If his philosophy can indeed be summarized by the episode, it has got holes in it to fly the Galactica through.
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 05:54pm on 13/08/2006
Man, I love that episode - it's so a complete maze and it's so thick and ugh, poor, poor Vincent. I wanted to hug him so much.

You remind me so much of the book I'm reading right now, Snow Crash, in which a hacker keeps on explaining language in that same way (to paraphrase: we all have the same hardware installed from birth, but it's the software - the experience to for example, develop a certain language. Oh, and he keeps on making metaphors with binary code). It's cool and interesting as hell, you should try it out.
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 06:05pm on 13/08/2006
Hm. Sounds interesting; and somewhere I read that title. And aren't metaphors with binary code the best? Where else do you have such a distinct way diffenting between True and False? And it's a rather nice trick to subtract by adding. Heh.

BTW, 1x13. Real can be a spoiled brat, can't she?
 
posted by [identity profile] nekare.livejournal.com at 02:00am on 14/08/2006
It's awesome, you should really try it - not only does it features hackers explaining philosophy and dead tongues, but there's also this amazingly rich background - the government has fall and the different criminal groups rule the city (the mafia takes care of old ladies, too! And owns every single pizza delivery store.) All this talk about binary code it's kinda making me wish I knew more about computers, actually. It should be great.

Indeed. I wanted to hit her for most of that episode XD (but aww, she's growing up. Too bad she needed her Entourage to go psycho to mature, but oh well.)
 
posted by [identity profile] swedish15.livejournal.com at 09:04am on 14/08/2006
Will pick up next month. (Next month equals money.)

Yeah, but she's still my favourite spoiled brat.

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